tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post6317159461715587407..comments2023-10-20T07:19:50.978-05:00Comments on Jungle Transmissions: Grateful Dead vs. Phish: An ex-hippie's deconstructionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-20029625413261182672015-07-11T13:19:38.901-05:002015-07-11T13:19:38.901-05:00Phish is the Wiggles for Hippies!!!!!!!!!!!Phish is the Wiggles for Hippies!!!!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-62839642461937849132014-11-05T12:57:42.643-05:002014-11-05T12:57:42.643-05:00They're not the best at what they do,they are ...They're not the best at what they do,they are the only ones that do what they do....is what Bill Graham said about the Dead....................................It is a timeless quote......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-50978382139479542013-02-23T10:44:20.841-05:002013-02-23T10:44:20.841-05:00I think you missed one HUGE difference.
The Grat...I think you missed one HUGE difference. <br /><br />The Grateful Dead were great singers. They had naturally great voices. Garcias voice is amazing, as were the others. <br /><br />Phish are musicians that figurerd out how to sing. Voices just ok. <br /><br />When it comes to singing, (pre 1980s) Grateful Dead blow away Phish. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-85273740680930892142013-02-17T11:34:09.070-05:002013-02-17T11:34:09.070-05:00I'm in my 40s now and have enjoyed all forms o...I'm in my 40s now and have enjoyed all forms of rock throughout my life. I love jam bands, including The Grateful Dead and Phish. I really miss seeing Jerry with the band and long for their live shows. As such, I will continue to enjoy live Phish until the ride ends. Both bands are iconic in their own right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-2326874072427573782012-07-25T10:03:43.698-05:002012-07-25T10:03:43.698-05:00Holy cow, you're right, it is. That changes t...Holy cow, you're right, it is. That changes the entire premise of my argument. Phish really does have something to say to us all!millionsunshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14306396435455054654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-88221613309692012022012-07-23T11:38:32.976-05:002012-07-23T11:38:32.976-05:00You are an idiot. A golgi apparatus is a part of t...You are an idiot. A golgi apparatus is a part of the animal cell..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-52087407684568602952012-07-16T14:26:49.885-05:002012-07-16T14:26:49.885-05:00I agree with this post. I am a punk rock guy who h...I agree with this post. I am a punk rock guy who had a lot of dead/phish fans for friends. By teenage default, I openly disliked both. Later in life, I found hearing the Dead in the background soothing and realized there was depth to not only their lyrics but sound. Phish now, even more than before, really is heavily redundant and the lyrics are abysmal, just terrible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-66517167272343478612012-01-06T11:17:12.072-05:002012-01-06T11:17:12.072-05:00This all seems to say that phish's best songwr...This all seems to say that phish's best songwritting album is simply "Billy Breathes" while the Dead have so many deep lyrics. 'Feel the weight, feel your weight, like the day before. Maybe you'll find direction, around some corner where it's been waiting to meet you' ... I'll have what he's having please! Plus the bass lines get you grooving and happy all the time. Plus their work with Joplin and what about that awesome ditty with Bob Weir, "monkey and the engineer" I really enjoyed Billy Breathes so I bought another phish album 'Hoist' and found it a little weird. Never having been to a phish conert, it seems more visually stimulating than anything else. Interesting that it is one of men's most heightened senses. It seems like the arguement between the two bands sometimes comes from the guy who picks a shirt because its adidas brand, but its purple, and he hates purple? A lot of dead songs were hard to get, especially 7 years ago, unless you had the net and shared files. That's where a lot of their live sets were available versus some 'best of Dead' cd in store and no idea on itunes. Availability played a factor in recordings available and the fact that Dead's shows stopped and phish keeps going,somewhere at european festivals that cost hundreds to travel to in the first place? The dead helped me get over road rage while sitting in chicago traffic for 45 miles both ways, that's how I got to know them best. They got me through the stiff classical music undergrad work. 'Come on children and clap your hands!'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-86838608904164842782011-01-22T00:50:50.804-05:002011-01-22T00:50:50.804-05:00In my mind, without a doubt, the Dead benefited fr...In my mind, without a doubt, the Dead benefited from having Pigpen in their early lineup, and all of the intangible things that were associated with his presence...the Mojo Hand for example.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-13554590984522788972010-12-29T01:18:17.319-05:002010-12-29T01:18:17.319-05:00You'd enjoy Phish more if you stopped trying t...You'd enjoy Phish more if you stopped trying to compare them to the Grateful Dead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-61892585157707240692010-10-01T16:07:47.491-05:002010-10-01T16:07:47.491-05:00Was it for this my life I sought? Maybe so maybe n...Was it for this my life I sought? Maybe so maybe not. If you don't think about the possibility that you got to choose to come to Earth after hearing this lyric...your brain is on auto-pilot.Docnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-45495475304689857642010-02-11T17:04:32.214-05:002010-02-11T17:04:32.214-05:00Some songs you make you laugh, some tell you a sto...Some songs you make you laugh, some tell you a story, some songs have meaning, some are just silly. This is one of the great things about Phish, beyond the live show experience and their technical prowess. <br /><br />Of course as you loosely referenced, song meaning is in the eye of the beholder. It's a very personal exercise, which may also change as you change. Phish treats lyrics in a much different way than most bands. In many cases these are more simple lyrics that have great meaning, when it hits you the right way.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00894393006377313474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-2989622411201441422009-12-03T11:11:01.379-05:002009-12-03T11:11:01.379-05:00There are a handful of Phish songs that have beaut...There are a handful of Phish songs that have beautifully fitting lyrics to go with the music. Totally true -- you mentioned the songs from Billy Breathes, which is my favorite album of theirs. If I Could is lovely. A criminally underrated song lyrics-wise is Frankie Says.<br /><br />I'm talking about the vast majority of Phish tunes. I know the guys in the band are preoccupied with the melodies and the crazy jamming, and they're not supposed to be poets, and that Tom Marshall's not supposed to be a poet either, but it's frustrating and embarrassing because they seem to go for the jokey stuff, the 6th grade humor kind of stuff, when their audience is made up of fairly intelligent college kids itching for a thought provoking couplet here and there. <br /><br />They can do better. They're capable of doing better, as evidenced by the songs you mention. That's the frustrating part! But keep the comments coming.millionsunshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14306396435455054654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-88024677320315750582009-12-03T02:10:22.817-05:002009-12-03T02:10:22.817-05:00yeah phish has silly lyrics once in a while. that&...yeah phish has silly lyrics once in a while. that's what makes them awesome. They also have excellent lyrics that are easily overlooked and dismissed because of the silly ones. Sleep, almost anything off undermind, silent in the morning, if I could, free, waste, thse are all songs with excellent lyrics not including many many more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-47821699925516128412009-09-29T21:04:00.048-05:002009-09-29T21:04:00.048-05:00So you said that Phish's lyrics are stupid and...So you said that Phish's lyrics are stupid and the lyrics you chose were from Gotta Jibboo. Listen, I'm no expert but the simplicity of the lyrics of that song along with some of the complex guitar riffs and horns makes it so perfect. You gotta do what you gotta do is the message. I love the Dead too, but Phish tells stories in their songs. Fee is a great example. They talk about wonder like in Dirt, and mystical creatures and they just have fun with their lyrics which make them powerful in there own way dude. Dead lyrics are powerful too, but you can't say that they were on a different level then Phish when it comes to songwriting. Cool review though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-8159830161864565072009-01-27T09:32:00.000-05:002009-01-27T09:32:00.000-05:00Haha. Tell you what, if somebody miracles me and I...Haha. Tell you what, if somebody miracles me and I don't have to drive too far, I'm there. And I'll probably love it. And I'll probably start listening to my Phish boots again. And I'll probably remember why I went to 32 shows in the first place.millionsunshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14306396435455054654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-21524741192151116022009-01-27T09:24:00.000-05:002009-01-27T09:24:00.000-05:00Curious if you are going to any Phish shows??????Curious if you are going to any Phish shows??????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-24631487288577320832008-04-14T16:04:00.000-05:002008-04-14T16:04:00.000-05:00Wait. "Jam bands and lyrics are contradictory"? "...Wait. "Jam bands and lyrics are contradictory"? "Lyrics are not important"? Is that in the Helping Phriendly Book somewhere? Weird logic, bud.<BR/><BR/>I do remember having fun at the shows. Too much fun, therefore the problems remembering.millionsunshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14306396435455054654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-84494105981795151802008-04-02T19:41:00.000-05:002008-04-02T19:41:00.000-05:00I have to say that my opinion is bias being a fan ...I have to say that my opinion is bias being a fan of both bands, + jam bands in general. First of all I would like to say that your harsh analysis on lyrics is too much; jam bands and lyrics are contradictory, and so lyrics are not that important. Second that credit is not given. Even ask rolling stone mag., Trey is like 73 and Garcia is 13 on the best guitar players list of all time. Trey's showmanship and Garcia's guitar improv. are unmatched. You not remembering the concerts does not mean they were no fun to be at (fun was a major goal of Phish).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-78038555220695963592007-04-21T12:48:00.000-05:002007-04-21T12:48:00.000-05:00I was gonna write a response, but it got too long,...I was gonna write a response, but it got too long, so I made it into a post on my blog. Though, there's a band that I forgot to mention in the post. Yo La Tengo are the most awesome jam band around today. Why the hippies haven't gotten uh, hip to that, I couldn't tell you. I think the hippies should really like them and Sonic Youth.Toothpaste Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03876989120692559996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-24070338367261340712007-04-20T23:35:00.000-05:002007-04-20T23:35:00.000-05:00Any musician that can open up their songs - or any...Any musician that can open up their songs - or anyone else's - has got my respect. And I love jam bands for being able to do that. I also think many other musicians get a bad rap for "jamming" on their songs, or at least stretching them out. That's a total shame. Go to a Radiohead show and see how they reinvent their own songs. That's what I'm looking for whenever I see a live show. It is pretty nuts that we both mentioned Phish/Dead in our posts today. Not to get all hippie on you, but it looks like you're part of the circle of brainwaves now, Jones.millionsunshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14306396435455054654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2381121937380254367.post-52606726864473265692007-04-20T22:28:00.000-05:002007-04-20T22:28:00.000-05:00How odd. I mentioned The Dead and Phish in my post...How odd. I mentioned The Dead and Phish in my post today. I really have no love for Phish, no offense, though I've secretly loved The Dead for a long time. At any rate, I was talking about watching bands grow in a live format. And how lucky we've been down here to have some amazing bands come out of the scene down here, and how rewarding it is to watch them grow. With a lot less travel and lot more beer than weed etc. Box of Rain is awesome. I really like Terrapin Station, too. Well, "Dancing In The Street" sucks. But no one can cover that song and get away with their credibility.Toothpaste Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03876989120692559996noreply@blogger.com